Morbid I know put just wondered if any one else has ever for about ending it all.I know I have on several occassions when things have been really bad in my life?Even got to a point where I had a list of ways to go with all the pros and cons for the different methods.

Jeez Romano! Way to start the day!!

And yes. I've thought about it on a very regular basis since my teens. Have made one attempt and am at the moment on a weekly prescription for anti-depressants due to my recent state of mind.

Sorry Red,
But was just wanted to know other peoples opinions on the subject matter,To see if others had thought about it like me but not gone ahead and done it.I am guessing alot of people may have thought about it somewhere in their life?Maybe more males than females?is it even normal to feel like it?

Successful suicide in the UK (since most of the forum regulars are from the UK) is not as high as in other countries where there is a gun culture. If I had a gun, I would have been dead many years ago.

Where there is no way to commit suicide painlessly or very quickly, any serious attempt at ending ones own life is usually either extremely messy and/or painful, rarely ending in the desired result (i.e. death), unless one has access to difficult to get serious drugs. Where a suicide attempt does end in death, it is usually a long drawn-out painful experience, often the result of organ failure.

Other people will have other opinions of course. My own opinion is that short of jumping in front of a train or stepping off a high building, or some other way where there is no turning point, even putting a gun to your head and pulling the trigger (hence the higher successful suicide rate where there is a gun culture), most attempts have a turning point (where the pain s too much, where someone intervenes, etc). As far as I know, the 2 most common methods of suicide are taking a drugs overdose or cutting into an artery, both of which the survival rate is far higher than you’d care to guess.

It takes an awfully strong-willed person to lie in absolute agony for hours, possibly even days, waiting to die from (for example) a pharmaceutical overdose, or to allow themselves to bleed to death.

And, no, I’m not going to go into details of my own experiences.....



Edit: Afterthought - Despite the fact that I am reasonably content with my lot in life right now, if I could get a gun, I’d probably shoot myself in the head within a week of getting it. Not because I’m depressed, but because I can’t be arsed to keep going through the same old shit, day after day. In the meantime, I try to keep myself busy every day, sleep a lot, and not think too much about the things that depress me to the verge of ending it all. Advice that anyone else with these thoughts in their head, reading this thread in the future, might like to keep in mind.


Afterthought 2 - please don’t post well-meaning ‘advice’ for me as an individual, based on what I wrote above…..I don’t need it. If you do make a judgement on me, or what I wrote in the last paragraph, I’ll tell you to fuck off and mind your business In spite of the thoughts outlined there, I am a well-balanced person, and perfectly capable of making my own decisions, and dealing with these sort of things myself, thank you very much!

This post will probably step on some toes and demolish certain feet entirely.

I dont think suicide is a way out of anything and as such, even though there have been plenty of reasons to do so, i havent tried anything of the sort in my life.

People say there's a certain honour in suicides (seppuku, harakiri) while some say there's an abject amount of bravery. but really - have you ever given a thought to someone who has to witness/be involved in such a thing.

a friend of mine who was going through a rough time decided to end his life by overdose. i happened to call him at the hour and he answered out of habit and just droned off. 15 minutes later i was kicking down the door of his flat - carried him to the hospital on a bike ( driving as fast as i could with a foaming, lifeless body draped over me) and trying to get medical attention to him as soon as possible.

one could say i was afraid of losing a friend, but i wasnt saving him because he was a friend - it was because i saw his life and apart from the reasons he chose to end his life over - he was a good chap.

who was wrong in this case? me, for somehow selfishly wanting to save him or him for trying to take his life?

to be honest, i dont really care - he still lives. and he is still very much my friend. but nothing is worth extinguishing your life over, especially if those close to you will be caused abject sadness for the act.

sorry if it was too opinionated.

We're all entitled to opinions Shiraz and I actually agree with you.

Sounds odd but I've had these thoughts with me for so long that I'm kind of desensitised to it.

My only attempt came about because I couldn't/didn't want to, cope with things constantly going wrong. And it was me that rang a friend after realising that my girls would end up living with their dad and the evil step-mother (that's another story )

I've had worse things happen since then, but this time I've sought help and my bf has been incredibly supportive.

Maybe for your friend, knowing there was someone there for them made the difference.

You are right Shiraz, this thread can also bring up some difficult feelings/memories. I should imagine you know what I mean.
I attempted (real) to end my life twice, all I will say is Thank God both times someone with some presence of mind was around at the right time to seek the help I needed.
My son took an overdose of script drugs and alcohol in a bid to end his life - I am certain it was a real attempt, but apparently he had been pretty hysterical and passed out quickly so he lived another day.
However, being the mother who had to sit at his bedside wondering if he would make it was one of the worse days of my life that I never want to go through again.....he had previously tried, aged 5, to hang himself (the rope broke) and chuck himself off the roof aged 7.
I have seen the after effects of way too many both successful and unsuccsessful suicides - all I can say (as the one who's NOT feeling this way inclined) is Please consider telling someone else before you do it, there is ALWAYS an alternatiave, even if right now the only alternative seems shit.

Ooooooooo Romano . Yeah there have been times i have felt very low and i can say (ive not thought about suicide). BUT i know there are a lot of people who are thinking about it every hour or second of the day .

There are many reasons why people want/are thinking about it, some people get stressed/down very easily and find no other way out but to do that. It must be horrible for someone to have that reeling around in their head though and very upsetting to hear too. I had a friend that was only 20 years old, commited suicide last year because he couldnt take it that his girlfriend had left him . Its horrible for friends/family to have to hear about it - and you know its too late as there is nothing they can do to help that person.

sometimes its a cry for help as they feel no one cares about them but i assure you people DO care. When your down you feel/think that but in life there are more people that care about you than you think

So if people feel like that it is best they go to get help before it gets worse - even if it is even chatting to friends about it (even from here) . Some times you may feel so down and feel there is no light at the end of the tunnel but there is ALWAYS light at the end of the tunnel - just gotta keep or try to be strong.

If a person feels like sucide - maybe they can write the best things i their life and the bad things in their life. Im sure there will be more good things than the bad without even realising it.

Sorry im getting nowhere with this point am i ?

xx

I can safely say I stopped thinking about it 7 years ago... PMSL
I mean... Why would you take your life if you're gonna lose it in the end anyway... If you're really down I think you should strive to get up, for as a great man would say "The one who's got nothing to lose, is a truly dangerous man."

And death is apparently watching us from all corners... Why would you try to induce it? To have the control? I don't know... If you could handle the risk of going to another side where you don't know if it's gonna be better or worse, or simply stop, why couldn't you handle the risks of life going on?

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I have thought about it a lot over the last 3 and a half years. Made one attempt after my first relationship ended as I was in a bad state then, and to be honest, I would NOT try and do it again. Especially since I can no longer take a certain painkiller or drink southern comfort(yeah, thanks to having my stomach pumped!!!) now my reaction to both of those is just to throw up.

Luckily I'm in a better frame of mind now. If I can survive the shit that has been thrown at me in the last few years - I'm sure I can survive anything.

Anyway. I know 3 people that have successfully killed themselves. If I had have known they were planning it, I would have talked two of them out of it. As for the other one, well, he's the reason I made my attempt.

There are better ways than trying to end it all. Whether it's just looking at what's wrong with your life, and trying to figure out ways of fixing it, or getting professional help.

Rambling over...!

I think that anyone is capable of doing such a thing when going through a crisis.
I don't even think it really matters too much how strong you are mentally either, in fact if you are mentally strong, it probably hits you harder.
I have had a couple of mates who have actually gone through with it, and the one thing they never really had, which was the deciding factor (in my mind), was support from anyone else, who could have just reminded them what they had worth living for.......

I don't really have an opinion about it being right or wrong, but I think for anyone to end it all in any way is just a really sad thing.

I had a bad time of it a few years back after having my drink spiked.I took a really bad reaction which spiralled into panic attacks and depression.there came a point about 3 or 4 months down the line were I wanted to end the thoughts but managed to get in touch with my mum who works at the edinburgh royal infirmary so she got me seen by a shrink who recommended a different course of medication to what i was taking.thankfully they worked better.

My confidence never came back after that and ive had the odd relapse but im as close to 100% as i have been since it started nearly 5 year back.
I doubt id have ever went throught wi the suicide as i couldnt do that to my friends and family.

I think the majority of people have serious suicidal thoughts at some point in their life.

Also, people who talk about it the most, usually succeed in the end, despite popular belief to the contrary (this was true in the 80s but Ive not seen if present statistics are the same).

There is an interesting book called 'Waking up Alive' which is basically the stories of people who were unsuccessful in their serious attempts to take their own life. So the dreaded word of 'failure' is still there on waking as well as often new adverse physical conditions caused by their 'attempts'.

I have worked with so many people over the years who have survived their attempts of taking their own life and those who were contemplating it and the thing that you have to accept is that you cannot be responsible for that person s decision to end it all. The sad thing is that if you look at the world through their eyes, you can often see why their life is not worth living. There is no easy way forward either, the person themselves have to 'want to live'.

I seem to be a magnet for suicidal people even though I no longer work in that area they find me be it a park, a bus.........or is it just I can see the intent within their words..... I dunno