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Poll: What is st georges day to you

What is st georges day to you
A chance to have a few drinks and dress up
40%
 40%  [ 2 ]
a day to celebrate all that is England
20%
 20%  [ 1 ]
I don't care about it
40%
 40%  [ 2 ]
It should be a bank holiday
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
other opinion - please express it in the thread
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 5
 

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16.04.2011, 11:24 quote

scottoh
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I just wondered how many people on here celebrate st georges day?

Do you see it just as a time to go drinking, wear silly costumes and swear loyalty to the queen (and government? Is it about being patriotic? Will you be flying a st georges flag from anywhere?

Or do you have feelings that st george was nothing more than a murderer of innocent people in the crusades? Is it all worth it?

Do you not care for st georges day? Is the day relevant?

 

16.04.2011, 13:45 quote

gooddude

I wont be celebrating it for the obvious reason im not English,( We have St Andrews Day )however my views on the subject are enjoy it and FLY the St Georges Cross from your homes and work places to show that you are patriotic.In this day and age we have been told as a nation to be less patriotic in various forms ( like council officials demanding flags be removed from homes and work places etc ). I think there should be a Union Flag and also a flag from your own country in every school class room i.e. St Georges cross & the Saltire, Welsh/irish flags including Jewish/Muslim schools( just like America ) and then it might go some way to make ethnic minorities feel part of OUR culture and help them integrate better through the belief that they ARE also British/U.K. Citizens and not just a coloured person living in a western country.

 

16.04.2011, 14:54 quote

zacktelstar
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The best way to celebrate a saints/national day is a day off. Then everybody can celebrate in how they see fit; plus it gives the oppportunity to make it into a national occassion. There are too few rituals and traditions.

I think there should be a St George's Pie recipe conviently "discovered" on the grounds of an old abbey somewhere. And similar ones for an ancient ruddy meade served in saxon helm, and a potent cyder enjoyed from a quiver which was quaffed by longbowmen returning from spanking the French and their wenches.
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16.04.2011, 19:04 quote

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We've already had letters from the local council... we're not allowed to fly the flag as it could be deemed as Racist or discrimination Rolling Eyes
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18.04.2011, 12:30 quote

scottoh
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s6boystu wrote:
We've already had letters from the local council... we're not allowed to fly the flag as it could be deemed as Racist or discrimination Rolling Eyes


I personally have never experienced this kind of "instruction" from a local council. Do you still have a copy of the letter that you could upload so that we could see it? From what I can tell it is not illegal to fly the st Georges flag, unless of course it is written as a term in your tenancy agreement?

I think I might get myself down to the Faversham on St Georges day, the brewer Shepherd Neame (they make my favourite beer 'whitstable bay') are doing an ale sampling day.....I just need to find my 2 pint tankard Razz

 

18.04.2011, 15:03 quote

jeggae
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I might go to Luton's celebrations if my pigeons are home earlier enough LINKEE

s6boystu wrote:
We've already had letters from the local council... we're not allowed to fly the flag as it could be deemed as Racist or discrimination Rolling Eyes


How is it 'Racist or discrimination'...by definition its none of those things. I'd be straight up the council, and would put a flag up just for the principle.

But that’s multiculturalism for you at its worse, and council probably exasperating a problem that doesn’t exist.

 

18.04.2011, 15:49 quote

shere92

Saint George, it appears, wasn't even English! As far as anyone knows, he came from Syria! (or thereabouts)

So while we complain of having too many 'Middle Easterners' or 'foreigners' in this country, we even have one for our patron saint!

To add to that, England has been a melting pot of different races and nations for thousands of years, so 'being English' owes itself to a lot of other 'hidden' factors anyway.

 

18.04.2011, 16:07 quote

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shere92 wrote:
Saint George, it appears, wasn't even English! As far as anyone knows, he came from Syria! (or thereabouts)

So while we complain of having too many 'Middle Easterners' or 'foreigners' in this country, we even have one for our patron saint!



As the religion started over that way, its probably not too surprising

..and not forgetting Irelands Patron saint, came from Briton Surprised

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To add to that, England has been a melting pot of different races and nations for thousands of years, so 'being English' owes itself to a lot of other 'hidden' factors anyway.


England been in existence here for about 1200 years, since the Germans came over here

 

18.04.2011, 16:15 quote

shere92

jeggae wrote:


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To add to that, England has been a melting pot of different races and nations for thousands of years, so 'being English' owes itself to a lot of other 'hidden' factors anyway.


England been in existence here for about 1200 years, since the Germans came over here


Yes, and before that it was the Celts, who got pushed into places like Scotland, Wales, Cornwall & Ireland etc when the Saxons came over...

Although I've even heard that these people may have had their roots in somewhere like Central Asia...

 

18.04.2011, 17:11 quote

shystef

I will dress the girls up, go down to the pub, if it is a nice day, and have a glass of orange juice Smile

I wont be waving any flags, but I have friends that 'really get into the spirit' so will be there, in a small capacity.

 

23.04.2011, 13:09 quote

joyleaf



Hey gang,
Bieng the only American at the moment in this conversation can somone please fill me on what is St. Goerges Day?
Out here like one of you guys had said we do fly the flag for freedom. But also it is all the states in our country that fly the same flag.
So what is wrong with flying the flags that you guys want to fly it is not ileagle to fly a flag so do it.
Flying a flag shows that your patrioutism and all of that other stuff that follows.
We have the 4th of July out here for us freedom.
Last I checked when we signed that treaty back in the day to seperate America from England and I believe it is called The Constitution we have the freedom of speach and so on so do you.
So put the flags up and don't worry about it Partyman

 

23.04.2011, 22:25 quote

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joyleaf wrote:


Hey gang,
Bieng the only American at the moment in this conversation can somone please fill me on what is St. Goerges Day?
Out here like one of you guys had said we do fly the flag for freedom. But also it is all the states in our country that fly the same flag.
So what is wrong with flying the flags that you guys want to fly it is not ileagle to fly a flag so do it.
Flying a flag shows that your patrioutism and all of that other stuff that follows.
We have the 4th of July out here for us freedom.
Last I checked when we signed that treaty back in the day to seperate America from England and I believe it is called The Constitution we have the freedom of speach and so on so do you.
So put the flags up and don't worry about it Partyman


Maybe its just a UK thing..but the United Kingdom comprises of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland, and we all have patron Saints. England is St George, Ireland - St Patrick, Scotland - St Andrew and Wales - St David.

You see England patron saints flag [cross of St George] all the time in old films e.g. Robin Hood etc....


But Saint Patrick's day is probably the most celebrated...especially in New York

England seems to be finding itself once more Smile

joyleaf wrote:

we have the freedom of speach and so on so do you.


That is probably as much as a delusion over there as it is over here

 

23.04.2011, 22:43 quote

shere92

jeggae wrote:
joyleaf wrote:

we have the freedom of speach and so on so do you.


That is probably as much as a delusion over there as it is over here


That's absolutely true...!

 
 
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