I reckon that anyone proven guilty of football violence should be given a lifetime ban from all matches at the first offence.....

sorry guys i didnt know that u knew all the guys caught causing trouble and knew all the facts. maybe they did start it and were responsible but fact is none of us were there so dont know for sure.u cant go one a couple of video clips and photos in the press who love these stories.

So its only Rangers fans that ever do it???....It doesnt need a football match to cause it after all..........put the amount of drunken men and women in one place that were in Manchester and there is bound to be trouble of some sort.

Fine and ban the ones that did it but don't tar everyone with the same brush.

Oops!

Sorry if any Rangers fans thaught that I was digging at them.

I really was not at all.

It doesn't matter who started the trouble does it though?
I didn't think of the problem as being associated with ANY team, I don't think that could be narrowed down to any particular group of fans, if it were that easy then the team in question would have been banned or at least dealt with accordingly.

I was only commenting on how sad it is that something which families go to get ruined by the minority....

For me to say that I think that Ranger's fans are all cunts, would imply thyat I know something about football.....
(which I don't )

Ranger Fans or not, these people cannot and should not be called footballs fans, they just go there on the sole purpose of volience, banning them from games would make no difference at all, having known a Chelsea Hooligan who is now 'reformed' was banned from football matches but still went to organised 'trouble' which most of it is, organised, this will never be stamped out, just needs to be policed correctly ................ just my view

I just love it when people put that on the end of their posts...

It reminds me of some funny arguments on here, that's all

Oh come on, you typed that in on purpose........