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20.02.2010, 15:44 quote

cagefighterlee

Alright, I seem to be having a problem when I go clubbing, I can't seem to get a pull!

Now I know I don't have the looks of Brad Pitt, but at the same time I know I'm not exactly the most ugly guy in the world and to be honest I genuinely can't see where I'm going wrong.

I don't just run up to girls and grab them but also I don't stay a million miles away from girls in there, my dancing is alright too so it's not like that's putting them off.

Also it's too loud in those places to start chatting one up so I'm really not sure what to do.

Does anyone have any tips/advice as anything would be greatly appreciated, cheers Smile

 

20.02.2010, 16:06 quote

whysoserious1983
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Can you dance? Just keep asking people to dance until you find somebody willing. It's a lottery in clubs. Make sure they don't have a boyfriend though, that never goes down well, and will put other girls off. Even if Stevie G has got your back.
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20.02.2010, 16:09 quote

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I think your best bet is to make your moves on the dance floor and subtly edge your way near enough to interact with the girl you like.... and I don't mean force yourself between her and her mates, you have to watch a while..... but if she likes you she'll probably dance closer and start giving you a bit of eye contact,and then you can make a sign to buy her a drink..... if not she'll turn her back on you a bit or move away.
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20.02.2010, 16:13 quote

missjb

Right i wanna know what you would normally do when you see a girl you like the look off and how you approach them to know where you are going wrong?

There are two types of girls that go out, the ones that wanna pull anyone and the ones that are just out with the girls for a drink and a dance.

The first are the easiest ones to spot cos they will generally be in the middle of the dance floor dancing with a different guy all night. They are also the ones that when dancing will constantly look round to see if anyone is looking at them and will welcome a group of random guys to their little 'circle'. These are the easiest to pull cos all you will need to do is go up behind them grab them by the waste and start dancing behind them, they will soon be grinding their against your dick! These girls you dont need to put much effort in to it cos they are out to pull so by just joining them dancing should do the trick! You probs wont even have to buy them a drink either, so a busting a few shapes infront of them will do the trick!!!

The second type are the hardest to pull and effort is needed, they usually are not that fussed if they pull so by trying to dance up against them isnt going to work cos they will soon move away! The best thing to do is if you see them at the bar go up and stand next to them, not to close and just crack some random joke of some sort so it seems like your not coming on to strong! also LOOK AT THE EYES!!!!! If they laugh and talk back to you your in, if they do what i do and give an awkward smile and grab their phone out they aint interested so move on!!!! The thing is these girls usually have a type and if you dont fit the bill then they aint gunna indulge in polite conversation just for the sake of it. You have to remember girls have men coming on to them all night so you have to make it seem not to obvious that your coming on to them if you get what i mean????!!!
Basically you just need to learn what signals a girl if giving at as to how to approach! Unless your drop dead gorgeous then all of the above is canceled out!!

DO NOT just say "god i could marry you" or "can i suck your nipples" as an opening line!!!!

 

20.02.2010, 16:19 quote

cagefighterlee

missjb wrote:
Right i wanna know what you would normally do when you see a girl you like the look off and how you approach them to know where you are going wrong?


I'll tend to slowly dance closer to them, moving a little closer every minute or so, I'll try to look into their eyes a bit but not too much as I don't want to look like some sort of weird nutcase rapist.

Are you saying it's ok to grab certain types of girls by the waist then without them really looking at me? Or do I have to be more polite/tentative?

And serious I'm an alright dancer.

Thanks for the advice so far people!

 

20.02.2010, 16:26 quote

bbones
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lol that dancin shit with mates is played out, y work up a sweat and reek of b.o. before u actually talk to a girl? ..as u enter a club, make sure the first thing u do is get a drink.. if ur by urself, stand by the bar until u see someone u like.. i usually just say "awrite?" lookin straight into their eyes lol and if she likes u, she will say something like "yea im awrite, ((insert the random type talk that women do in here))" ...it goes from there lol and u will find out that u dont have to say much, as the average girl talks a lot but make sure u r attentive to what she's sayin as she would ask u about it in the mornin
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20.02.2010, 18:34 quote

missjb

cagefighterlee wrote:
missjb wrote:
Right i wanna know what you would normally do when you see a girl you like the look off and how you approach them to know where you are going wrong?


I'll tend to slowly dance closer to them, moving a little closer every minute or so, I'll try to look into their eyes a bit but not too much as I don't want to look like some sort of weird nutcase rapist.

Are you saying it's ok to grab certain types of girls by the waist then without them really looking at me? Or do I have to be more polite/tentative?

And serious I'm an alright dancer.

Thanks for the advice so far people!


Nah even with those types you will still need to make some kind of eye contact and smile then move in!!

It all depends on what you looking for really i disagree that trying to dance with all girls will work! Like i said there is two types of girls out there and like i said reading their signals will help you determine who is an easy pick and who isnt!

 

20.02.2010, 20:17 quote

jeggae
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bbones wrote:
lol that dancin shit with mates is played out, y work up a sweat and reek of b.o. before u actually talk to a girl? ..as u enter a club, make sure the first thing u do is get a drink.. if ur by urself, stand by the bar until u see someone u like.. i usually just say "awrite?" lookin straight into their eyes lol and if she likes u, she will say something like "yea im awrite, ((insert the random type talk that women do in here))" ...it goes from there lol and u will find out that u dont have to say much, as the average girl talks a lot but make sure u r attentive to what she's sayin as she would ask u about it in the mornin


Thats not far off the mark, dancing is a waste of time. Better off not trying too hard.


I do okay in clubs, I tend to get women come up and talk to me. But I look like a bouncer, and play on it a little. Especially up north

 

20.02.2010, 20:25 quote

bliss23

Oh seriously... Can't y'all see he's takin' the piss? Did CFL ever sound like havin' trouble with anything? Razz Seriously... Let's get REAL. :p

Anyway... Nice to see you're not gone for good, CFL. BTW, can you hook me up with Stevie G? Razz

 

20.02.2010, 20:33 quote

bliss23

bbones wrote:
just say "awrite?" lookin straight into their eyes lol and if she likes u, she will say something like "yea im awrite, ((insert the random type talk that women do in here))" ...[/color]



Yeah, right, BB. Razz Laughing Laughing Laughing It's like sayin... How are you and if she says I'm fine... You're in. The frick you are. Laughing Laughing Laughing It's just being polite.

The only ways to know you're in are either asking if you're in (but in a polite way) and gettin a yes (or something alike that sounds good), or making some sort of physical contact and her not pulling back.

However... Wtf are we talkin' about anyway. ITAE's presence is once again needed. Although I don't know on what terms him and CFL are, and I don't think he picks up chicks in the disco... He pretty much has the answer to anything a man should do to get a chick. He could hold seminaries. Laughing Laughing Laughing

 

21.02.2010, 07:57 quote

itae

Your problem is more than likely in how you dress and your hair, seeing as thats 60% of the battle in a club. So my only question to you really is whats your sort of outfit/style?

I'm inclined to agree with Bbones anyway, say something to her at the bar and bounce off what she responds to. If she likes you she'll chase anyhow, and you'll know that because she'll go the extra mile with the conversation. You could just say "hello" and if she asks YOU how you are, then thats beyond polite.. Coz lets be serious, after 9 drinks whos got the time to be polite? Dont offer her a drink either, offer her the kebab after..that way if she accepts that you atleast know youve got till after the club to pull.

Cant really give much advice since all i honestly have to do is stand still, but just make sure you're dressed great and your hairs lookin good.

 

21.02.2010, 11:09 quote

bliss23

Now I don't mean to say the opposite, because it pretty much makes sense, however... There are some women out there who'll just chat for a while, to see what you can do... As in... They might give you an 8 on a physical basis, but wanna know if you can get some quick bonus points.

Real life isn't as superficial as the internet, even if we're talkin' bout nightlife/clubs. Also some women can't/won't say BEAT IT, unless you REALLY SUCK, so they might indulge in a little chit chat, even if they think you're not OUTSTANDING, but ok. That doesn't mean you're IN though.

One thing is true... They won't hold it for a long time if they're really not interested. However saying she's alrite and askin' how you are really proves nothing, but the fact you don't REALLY SUCK.

I once chit chatted with a dude for about 10 minutes, before he asked if I'd like him to hang around some more and I said "You know... You're nice, but I'm just mingling tonight. You have a good night. Wink" That in women terms means - You're normal or somewhat below. We're sorry to let you know, but you didn't make it. LOL

Think of it as speed dating, even if it's a club we're speakin' of.

However, as MissJB said, if they're dancing and you somehow make physical contact and they don't back off, then you're definitely in.

As for the simply walking off... It's tru that, if they REALLY DON'T LIKE YOU, they'll smile sheepishly and turn their back, tryin' to lose their track.


Anyway... I seem to have lost myself in words, yet again. LOL Sorry.

Thing is... As in other social encounters, if someone likes you and such... They'll try to get a bit closer, maybe even touch your arm or something and they'll generally appear to have a good time.

Unless you're power playing, but then again... That's a whole different story.

Sorry for the rant again. Over.

 

21.02.2010, 11:35 quote

itae

but see bliss that all depends where you're from..in different places in england for example, the flirting game is different. Liverpool for instance, all you really have to do is pinch her arse, if she doesnt slap you then you're in. In different parts of london, a drink accepted is an in, in other places indulging in conversation is the door open and your words, if chosen correctly, is you hypothetically walking through it.

Women will use you, they'll dance with one guy to get another guys attention..that happens alot, so just dancing with the girl doesnt mean you're in. It all depends where you are and on the woman, some women wont even talk to you if you're not their cuppa tea. The only way you know you're definately in without fail is if they come up to you and talk to you, or is if you invite them and they accept or vica versa..Depends on the woman, again.

 

21.02.2010, 12:36 quote

cagefighterlee

To go on what itae said I'm on the outskirts of London and women here are far from slags, they tend to be a bit stuck up and something like a pinch on the bum will more than likely get you a slap.

I thought I was in last night, I was chatting to a girl I know (and have liked a bit for a while) at a bar, we were getting along really well and she was moving closer towards me, the conversation was flowing smoothly for about 10 minutes when all of a sudden her boyfriend turned up! I knew she had a boyfriend before but I was hoping they'd split up as I've never really asked her about him, but sadly they haven't.

Last night was more of a mates-night-out though, there was 4 of us (all guys) and we were dancing in a group so can't really complain that I didn't pull, it's not as though I was making an effort and dancing next to girls.

I tend to either wear a smart shirt of a polo shirt with jeans and my hairs a bit long at the moment so I don't go a lot with it, I'm getting it cut soon though so when I do that I'll be able to play around with it a bit.

Bliss you're too kind! You should come down to a club near me some time, I can do the robot like a motherf*cker.

 

21.02.2010, 14:45 quote

missjb

itae wrote:

some women wont even talk to you if you're not their cuppa tea.


This is correct actually i would never indulge in a deep conversation with someone that wasnt my cup of tea because men take it the wrong way and apparently i flirt without realising it! Of course this all goes out of the window when im really drunk cos i will then chat complete shit to randoms especially if im outside smoking or at the taxi rank!!!! Itae is right it depends on the woman and like i said before you need to read the signs and their body language. I dont think simply going up to someone and saying "hi" is enough with the women that you want a little bit more than a quick fumble. Lets be honest in a club, conversation kinda goes out of the window so you need to make a good impression to start and again say some random funny thing! I agree that if a women is interested they will end up making it obvious and they will be the ones that end up doing the running! Say i see someone i fancy i will try to get their attention, i will dance near or go and plant myself near them at the bar and then body language will hopefully do the rest.

But we are talking about average looking guys here arent we? The good looking ones dont have to try so hard.

 
 
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