Both Stories are so sad, the bastards in that chat room egging him on is beyond belief!
Ive suffered depression in the past, but have never come to the point where i would ever do anything to end it all. They must have felt so low that killing them selves was the only option.

There's a problem of mob-mentality everywhere.
I sympathise with all genuine cases of depression and really wish that it didn't happen, but depression seems to be rapidly becoming 'cool' among the younger generation, which often leads to a lack of diagnosis in real teenage cases.
Such a shame that this issue is around to be discussed. I wish very much that it wasn't.

I agree with Tinkerlou , I have friends that suffer with depression and one is classed Bipolour , when these people become depressed its hard for all around them , not just the person who is suffereing , Preyers go out the guy . I hope the others involved with tomenting this guy live a lifetime of guilt .

People who are going to commit suicide rarely feel the need to make a spectacle of it, or indeed give any advance warning. Cases like this are rare, and to me this is more than likely your textbook 'cry for help' than a genuine suicide, but not being privileged to know what was going through his head at the time I guess we'll never know.



A lot of people, especially younger people, go undiagnosed with mental illness. There is still a huge stigma associated with any mental condition, with both sufferers and loved ones often in a state of denial because of it. Lets face it, it isn't easy facing up to the fact that your son/daughter is a loon, and if you're the sufferer yourself the last thing that enters your head is that there might be something wrong with you. Even if you do get diagnosed you're often still in denial, because of the nature of the illness, so its a catch 22 situation.



If someone is determined to commit suicide they will, and they'll often do it without warning (even though the warning signs, which do exist, are often missed by those around them). Your classic case of someone saying 'right, that's it, I'm going to hang myself' and then leaving a tear-stained note only to be found hanging from the rafters is rather rare, from my experience at least.



Confession time: I tried it twice when I was younger (early 20s) when suffering from a really nasty bout of depression. At no point did I feel the need to tell anyone. All I wanted to do was die. Everyone elses' feelings were immaterial, I really couldn't give a shit. In a way it is a selfish act, but once you're on the edge of the abyss there is no turning back unless you're extremely lucky. I was lucky because on both counts I was found in time, but when you come out of it intact you feel even worse than beforehand. Imagine being in a state where you want to die and you can't even do that? Its fucked up. Nobody knew the state I was in, and even today they don't know the full extent of my illness at the time. Serious depression never manifests itself on the surface. As far as the rest of the world is concerned you're tip-top. Which is why it always comes as a shock to people. You become rather adept at masking your feelings to survive.



For all the talk of loved ones, medication and therapy helping people through depression the only way through it is by yourself. Medication is a vicious circle if not carefully monitored, it just papers over the cracks. Therapy doesn't help in a lot of cases as it is done in a very insincere and clinical fashion with very little empathy. Loved ones help, but they're often ill-equipped to deal with the situation and they're saddled with guilt, confusion and very little empathy because of the stigma associated with mental illness. So that leaves you. Physician heal thyself. Only once you have realised the shit you're in can you find a way out of it. If you have to approach anyone on the subject find a fellow sufferer, you know the signs to look for (all too well), and if they're not too far gone they're usually more than willing to 'compare notes'.



/soapbox