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25.04.2008, 16:59 quote

Chet24
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Is it wrong for a poor man to steal bread to feed his starving family?
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25.04.2008, 17:06 quote

thefreq
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I dont think so and I suspect revolutions have been caused by less. If that came up we might have a classic case of fight the power but I guess some civilizations aren't so lucky.
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25.04.2008, 17:22 quote

titwhipper

Chet24 wrote:
Is it wrong for a poor man to steal bread to feed his starving family?



Is it wrong for a wealthy man to not share his bread for anothers family?

You have given a good question forward Chet24, but it goes two ways.
Helping is good. People should do it more often, they don't though, sadly.
Moraly, the answer to your question is yes. Ask this:

Should a blind eye be turned to those stealing the bread to feed there starving families?
Why should they be allowed to steal? Are you allowed to steal?

I fear your question has no real answer, just a lead-in to a circular conversation.

I would give my bread, I've done that before on many ocassions. Human nature dictates you will be taken advantage of. Your desiscion to give to help another in need is good. Good is also to know when you are bieng taken advantegous of.

 

25.04.2008, 18:01 quote

baxter8

stealing isnt wrong if you are stealing from the big corparations

 

25.04.2008, 18:23 quote

megalone

I think that the bible says that stealing is bad, regardless of the reason.

I say think cos I'm not the religious type myself.

I live my life the way I see fit, and do what ever I have to, to get by.
If I were in the position to have to steal from anyone, I'd be pretty desperate, but I would if I REALLY had to.

I do think that it still be wrong though, if that makes any sense, I can't do the right thing ALL the time, I don't think anyone can.......

 

25.04.2008, 18:51 quote

titwhipper

I have stolen food because of hunger. In that time of need, reasons of deduction are valid. Not right.

 

25.04.2008, 19:04 quote

fruitnnutcase

Ive stolen when i would bunk off school and be bored in town...

in answer to the original question.....who gives a shit, survival of the fittest and all that.

 

25.04.2008, 19:36 quote

baggiebhoy
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Legally, it is. Morally, it is justifiable.
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26.04.2008, 18:17 quote

Chet24
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baxter8 wrote:
stealing isnt wrong if you are stealing from the big corparations



What makes stealing from a big company that people work hard for right?
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26.04.2008, 18:20 quote

baggiebhoy
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Chet24 wrote:
baxter8 wrote:
stealing isnt wrong if you are stealing from the big corparations



What makes stealing from a big company that people work hard for right?


Because you are rebelling against the bourgeoisie! Twisted Evil

(I hope thats spelt right. My sociology teacher would be very disappointed in me)
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26.04.2008, 18:40 quote

lilacrose

baggiebhoy wrote:
Chet24 wrote:
baxter8 wrote:
stealing isnt wrong if you are stealing from the big corparations



What makes stealing from a big company that people work hard for right?


Because you are rebelling against the bourgeoisie! Twisted Evil

(I hope thats spelt right. My sociology teacher would be very disappointed in me)


Quote: Bourgeoisie is a classification used in analyzing human societies to describe a social class of people who are in the middle class or merchant class, whose status or power comes from employment, education, and wealth as opposed to aristocratic origin. petite bourgeoisie (also petty bourgeoisie) is used to describe the class below the bourgeoisie but above the proletariat.
In common usage the term has pejorative connotations suggesting either undeserved wealth, or lifestyles, tastes, and opinions that lack the sophistication of the rich or the authenticity of the intellectual or the poor.

Please explain how stealing from a large company is rebelling against the bourgeousie, and that's ok? I dont understand.

 

26.04.2008, 19:22 quote

baggiebhoy
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Just a joke Alice. I thought the comment about the sociology teacher was a good tip-off of that.
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26.04.2008, 19:25 quote

megalone

baggiebhoy wrote:
Just a joke Alice. I thought the comment about the sociology teacher was a good tip-off of that.


Are you sure you don't mean Scientology teacher?

It turns me on to think of you whacking off Tom Cruise in a dark room.....

 

26.04.2008, 19:28 quote

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megalone wrote:
baggiebhoy wrote:
Just a joke Alice. I thought the comment about the sociology teacher was a good tip-off of that.


Are you sure you don't mean Scientology teacher?

It turns me on to think of you whacking off Tom Cruise in a dark room.....


I'm positive. Although feel free to think about that all you like Laughing
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26.04.2008, 19:30 quote

lilacrose

When I was working with homeless people, we had a garage stacked full of shampoo, toothbrushes, soap, tins of food, rice, pasta and dog food (most homeless people have a dog for company and security) - most of it generously donated by Proctor&Gamble, MasterFoods, Boots, etc.
So I don't believe these large companies deserve to be stolen from, they do their bit to help the less fortunate.
I lost count of the times I went to court and stood by the side of an offender up before the Beak for shoplifting - time and time again the reason for pilfering a sandwich or two from Tesco was because said offender had spent all his/her money on illegal drugs or alcohol.
I think when someone does it once, okay we should all be sympathetic and lenient, but some times you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink. People will always find an excuse to stay outside the law if it requires a little effort on their part to be any different.
There are numerous organisations out there to help desperate people, there is no need to steal the basics to survive.
But what troubles me is the times an offender gets the same sentence as some git who got pissed behind the wheel and mowed down a child, or someone who embezzled millions from a pension fund.
There is no easy yes or no answer to the question Chet, I dont think.

 
 
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