Sorry, but...There IS two sides to everything, you know.


Surely it's between Jim, the mods/God/Toby and anyone else directly involved, and that does NOT mean you lot.

You never know what could have gone off in PM's, so...it'd probably be an idea to just leave it.

It isn't anything to do with any of you. Yes, I'm aware Jim is your friend, but...still.

iv been away for a week so i dont know what has happened but i will miss jim he was part of the old skool like me x
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Oh, it would also be an idea to stop baiting and looking for somebody to blame.

And Ann-Marie, I didn't see Klee actually admit it. So stop trying to bloody bait her.

Sorry Laura, but this is a little naive

You are right that the thread should have been locked when things got out of hand, and I was about at the time, but I couldn't lock, or edit posts in that section.

That would have been the better option.

I have not contacted Toby in any way over ths matter, and I don't even know his opinion on any of it.

I would hardly class myself as the Adolf Hitler of mods either, I am just as bad as everyone else when it comes to posting borderline stuff on here.

What was posted was a personal attack, and that has to be dealt with in one way or another.

The decision to ban Jim was Toby's decision alone and no-one elses as far as I am aware anyway.

It was not too long ago that me and Jim had a fallout on here, and with that in mind, I haven't got too involved on the forums, cos I know it would somehow be turned around to look like I hold a grudge against Jim, which is not true.

I don't agree with what he posted, and I think that it should have been edited out at the time, but it wasn't, and who posted it wasn't an issue.

Before this thread gets locked......I third red.. these forums have been taken over by a new breed of p***k teasers, that wind up and tease men til they are at breaking point..... and then, they have the cheek to wonder what all the fecking fuss is about.... when the s*** really does hit the fan. GROW UP ffs!

Before this thread gets locked, if everyone wnats to talk about it, then it is a GREAT idea.

But any personal attacks on anyone will get it locked, I don't want that, and I am sure you don't want that, everyone obviously has something to say.

I will email Toby in a minute to find out exactly why this has happened, and will let you know when I find out.

lets say ..... i have the cheek to wonder whats going on ?? YES i do coz its getting started by someone who blames OTHER people for starting it off.

And another thing c**k teaser or whatever u like - u see 1 side by what u get told, u dont know the other so keep ur noses out of it. And u know what ....... if u hate me for it - so be it.

I know my side to the story so i have no explaining to do - ur like flies around c**p - one starts n u all follow (NOT all, but u know).