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23.03.2007, 22:13 quote

toby

Have you ever observed the US Dollar versus the Euro (or British Pound)?



If you bought anything in USD or invested in property in the USA 4-5 years ago you basically lost 50% of it now....

It is really weird.....I wonder whether it will rise again someday or whether this tendencey is basically more or less forever.

The original reason why the USD was strong in the first place, is that lots of people from abroad kept part of their money on USD bank account as they didnt trust their own currency....or as the interests rates where/are higher there.

This was before the Euro though. I think lots of people from Japan etc.. now rather have an Euro bank account as all the EU countries together are stronger and more stable then a single country - even if one country has a bad time, the other countries offset against it.

But peple investing in the Euro also means less investment in the USD - and the US economy is completely dependent n foreign capital.....

I am not a specialist, but is it possible there will be an economic disaster in the USA soon ?

 

24.03.2007, 02:51 quote

chris343
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toby wrote:
Have you ever observed the US Dollar versus the Euro (or British Pound)?



If you bought anything in USD or invested in property in the USA 4-5 years ago you basically lost 50% of it now....

It is really weird.....I wonder whether it will rise again someday or whether this tendencey is basically more or less forever.

The original reason why the USD was strong in the first place, is that lots of people from abroad kept part of their money on USD bank account as they didnt trust their own currency....or as the interests rates where/are higher there.

This was before the Euro though. I think lots of people from Japan etc.. now rather have an Euro bank account as all the EU countries together are stronger and more stable then a single country - even if one country has a bad time, the other countries offset against it.

But peple investing in the Euro also means less investment in the USD - and the US economy is completely dependent n foreign capital.....

I am not a specialist, but is it possible there will be an economic disaster in the USA soon ?




I'am not sure the factors in the USD worth against other currency but it toatlly sucks now. A dollar to a pound is like cutting a dollar in half Sad
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24.03.2007, 03:11 quote

MRious
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dont worry about american dollar because iraq war has created a huge budget deficit in america as it was extremely expensinve war. FED (american central bank) is trying to attract financial investments to america in order to compensate that deficit. and FED is trying to decrease dollars value. idont think NO ONE will let american economy down as world economy still depending on american economy. if american economy would collapse, then the world economy goes into a crises.

euro is still strong because European central bank follows strict rules without untying them.

do follow funds if you have investments. because these fonds are cotrolling the world economy these days.

 

24.03.2007, 07:56 quote

Anonymous

According to Robert Newman's A History Of Oil the USD has been so strong because most of the trade around the world, particularly with oil, has been done with USD, even between Europe and Africa. The decline of the dollar has to do with the oil selling nations switching to to Euros, causing everyone to sell the dollars back to buy Euros.

 

24.03.2007, 08:14 quote

Anonymous

Hm....but who would invest his money in the USD if it has lost 50% of its value in recent years? I personally wouldn't as I think it is even more risky to invest in real-estate in the USA then gambling with stocks....even if the house prices rose by 10% in 5 years you woud still loose more then the prices have gone up.

I don't think the majority make ethical decisions when it comes to investing...they just look at the risk and the potentil of growth....otherwise we would not have problems with 3rd world countries and famines.

 

24.03.2007, 08:19 quote

Anonymous

It would be cool if someday the exchange rate of the USD and Euro was fixed to 1:1, i.e. 1 USD = 1 Euro and to couple the USD to the Euro some day similiar to how other currencies are couple to the USD (the Bahamian dollar?)

 

24.03.2007, 09:33 quote

Anonymous

If you fancy I found Robert Newman History of oil on google video.
He discusses USD v Euro about halfway through.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7374585792978336967

 

24.03.2007, 11:29 quote

MRious
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god wrote:
Hm....but who would invest his money in the USD if it has lost 50% of its value in recent years? I personally wouldn't as I think it is even more risky to invest in real-estate in the USA then gambling with stocks....even if the house prices rose by 10% in 5 years you woud still loose more then the prices have gone up.

I don't think the majority make ethical decisions when it comes to investing...they just look at the risk and the potentil of growth....otherwise we would not have problems with 3rd world countries and famines.


technically no one would invest in the USA.

i think most appropriate investment strategy might be buying dollars, going to emerging or developing countries and investing government bonds and stock exchanges or buying properties for example in brasil or turkey. Although dollar has lost its value, it is still most respected money in the world. lets take turkey, interest rate is around %18-20 a year and properties are still cheap bcoz exchange rate gap (1pound=2.70 Turkish lira, $1= 1.37 turkish lira).

ps. i dont work in finance companies or my major is finance. i am just an individual investor and these are my opinions. take your own risk if you are going to invest.

 

24.03.2007, 16:56 quote

toby

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it is still most respected money in the world.


Hm...I am not sure about that...you would need to ask everyone on this planet or at least a statistically representative group.

I think people trust the Euro or the British pound more...historicaly especially when the dollar was still backed by the gold reserves, this was probably true.
You do not even have the guarantee anymore that the USA has enough gold to exchange it....it is a pure virtual currency now anyway.

I remember the old days when I was younger and we went on holidays....you could always pay in US dollars...now those countries that are not even in the EU yet all want to be paid in Euros...

 

24.03.2007, 18:08 quote

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LMFAO

Getting worthless, its been worthless for ages now toby, buying in america is freaking awesome, so long as customs and excise dont stamp on your parade Razz

Nearly two years ago, i bought the BEST CPU on the market from america, it would have cost me £800 in the UK, i got it for £450, i was proper chuffed.
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