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18.11.2008, 23:31 quote

u4ric
u4ric Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 297 Location: United Kingdom, England, London
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Hope this is the right section.

For me I am an emotional drunk and when ever I get that way I seem to open up more than any other times. Kind of makes me wonder if drink should be used in a counselling session as in my experience and that is some one has has had this for most of my life, it is not always easy to completely open up about your feeling in normal situations.

In what state do you find easy to open up to strangers and what do you think about the use of drugs in counselling?

 

18.11.2008, 23:53 quote

rocketgirl

Ideally, in counselling, you should be 'ready' under your own steam to 'open up'. In other words, the use of alcohol might get you yapping on an emotional level, but when you sober up you are often likely to think "oh shit i wish i hadnt said that" as you prolly have found anyway at some point.
This is why cigarettes, caffeine and certainly alcohol are not encouraged to be used while 'in session'with a counsellor as they give you a false sense of confidence and calm.
Saying that, counselling can very often be best effective in tandem with prescription drugs i.e. anti-depressants. This is simply to lift your persistent low mood to a level where hopefully you can see things from a less clouded perspective.
As a counsellor in the past (I dont do that job any more) I would never see a client who had been drinking/taking non-perscription drugs as you never know when that person's personality might become a danger and also renders the session pointless when they start talking gibberish.
You are supposed to leave the session clear-headed thinking about what took place, not with a hangover and the next day cant remember what was said. Razz

 

19.11.2008, 00:32 quote

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Yes, I agree with RG totally. I used to be an Art Therapist and on more than one occasion I had clients turn up drunk, and it was definitely not good for the therapeutic relationship or for the person to gain anything useful from their session.
As RG says, people should go for counselling or therapy when they feel ready, and want to move on in life, the 'right time' is crucial to gain full benefit.
The difficult thing is that some Counsellors or Therapists may suit one client better than another yet it may be that you have no choice so it's whoever you are referred to, but having a rapport is important if you're going to be sharing those intimate aspects of your life.

 

19.11.2008, 06:47 quote

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I have enough trouble stilling my tongue once I open up without the need for a drink or 3 Laughing

There have been occasions when it's taken me a couple of sessions before I've opened up but i still wouldn't use drink to get it going. I'd just feel stupid afterwards.
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19.11.2008, 08:16 quote

ravencolouredsky
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i tend to get the most emotional when i am really pissed off


in fact when i am pissed off its about the only time i cry because the rest of the time i just don't see the point

 

19.11.2008, 09:36 quote

bexbex

Being in a counselling session and opening up when you've had a few are totally different ends of the scale. Clearly you have to be sober to be able to work through any emotions you are going through at that time and to take on board any advice that is given.

Having said that i always talk more when i've had a few and always about things that are troubling me at that time and if nothing is troubling me i just tell people how much i love them!

 

19.11.2008, 10:28 quote

ed85

Florida

 

19.11.2008, 10:32 quote

mimib
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ed85 wrote:
Florida


Would somebody native understand that statement?


Bex alcohol does loosen your tongue but like with any other thing in life it is a small path and a question of the dose between lovely and embarrasing...

 

19.11.2008, 10:46 quote

rocketgirl

ed85 wrote:
Florida


Ha! My first thought was "Louisana, lots of moonshine to open up with!"

I did wonder which bright spark would be the first to come up with such a response, and yes all my dosh was on Eddy, 3-1 odds on favorite! Laughing

Topic - hhhmm I dont drink or do drugs, but if "emotional" means reveal my true feelings, then I'd have to say pretty much any state of mind, the only time I am not totally honest about my feelings is when I am pretty much sure the other person is not interested in how I feel or does not need to know.

 

19.11.2008, 11:00 quote

rocketgirl

U4ric - "I completely understand what your saying and have been on these forums enough to know you know things but this time personally I have to disagree. This dosn't belong on this topic but I need to answer. I have been seeing some kind of mental health professional for most of my life and I can honestly say what you have just said is not always true.

Anyone who feels the need to speak to some one I would 100% say go get professional help but for reasons I don't want to write on any public forum, its not always going to help.

Heh and this probably just makes me look like a nutter anyway........."

So we dont hijack the other thread:

Mental health professionals - be it counsellors, psychotherapists, psychiatrist or whatever - are there to help you handle problems, deal with them for good or manage issues better so they are not a problem anymore. They cant wave a magic wand and make the problem go away.
It may be that you've never found a professional who was able to help you manage your issues effectively.

 

19.11.2008, 11:01 quote

mimib
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rocketgirl wrote:
ed85 wrote:
Florida


Ha! My first thought was "Louisana, lots of moonshine to open up with!"

I did wonder which bright spark would be the first to come up with such a response, and yes all my dosh was on Eddy, 3-1 odds on favorite! Laughing

Topic - hhhmm I dont drink or do drugs, but if "emotional" means reveal my true feelings, then I'd have to say pretty much any state of mind, the only time I am not totally honest about my feelings is when I am pretty much sure the other person is not interested in how I feel or does not need to know.


Ahh - thanks for enlightening me, that makes sense, I first thought of local humor...

But back to your last statement, I have to say that it works for me the other way round: As long as I don't really care about the other person's feelings towards me I am the warmest and most open person, but if it comes to somebody that is important to me, I tend to make sure that the other person has not a clue...

 

19.11.2008, 12:39 quote

bexbex

mimib wrote:
but like with any other thing in life it is a small path and a question of the dose between lovely and embarrasing...


Well i always think i'm lovely of course...not sure about the company i'm with at the time though!!

 

19.11.2008, 12:54 quote

mimib
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bexbex wrote:
mimib wrote:
but like with any other thing in life it is a small path and a question of the dose between lovely and embarrasing...


Well i always think i'm lovely of course...not sure about the company i'm with at the time though!!


Then you are!!! Otherwise you would have that slight feeling of embarrassment next morning

 

19.11.2008, 17:12 quote

u4ric
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rocketgirl wrote:

Mental health professionals - be it counsellors, psychotherapists, psychiatrist or whatever - are there to help you handle problems, deal with them for good or manage issues better so they are not a problem anymore. They cant wave a magic wand and make the problem go away.
It may be that you've never found a professional who was able to help you manage your issues effectively.


This was very different, I know very well how the system works so I never expected anyone to be able to fix my problem.

The problem I had was the reason why a professional couldn't help me. Does that make sense? Its hard to explain.

Also I know you wouldn't be able to be helped while under the influence, I just think some times and in some individuals it would help a counsellor to access certain areas of a person psyche other wise inaccessible. I know before it became illegal in the US they used MDMA on patients for the same reason and also still today they ketamine on seriously mental ill patients to both sedate and access parts of the mind. Its a bit like hypnotism but without the need to think about the sea and that stuff lol

 

19.11.2008, 17:36 quote

rocketgirl

You could always inject yourself with SP-17 on the way in to your counselling session! Laughing

 
 
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