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19.07.2007, 16:53 quote

pirakkanaama2
pirakkanaama2 Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Posts: 1888 Location: United Kingdom, England, Leicestershire
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in my opinion.. drugs are the most selfish you can get,i have friends in various hospitals that are still there due to drug habbits, i have skitzo effective disorder, i smoked 1 spliff and that was all, now its not possetive that it was due to the smoking, but if it is... is it realy worth the risk? sure its bad for you if you get something like that, but its alot worse for those around you

PS: weed increases levels of dopermean in your brain( i cant spell dopermean) which is a cause for skitzophrenia, medicating for skitzophrenia reduces levels of dopermean, alsimers desease ( i cant spell that either) is a lack of dopermean, so if you get skitzophrenia but not to bad, you will most likely get alsimers like i will. its not worth it
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19.07.2007, 17:12 quote

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I've seen what drugs has done to my dad and a few close family members and how much they have changed because of them and I don't want that ever. My dad left my mom and the family in the pursuit of happiness aka drugs and a druggie girlfriend and its been so hard. I'm not against anyone doing it as it is their own personal choice, but I know I don't want to.

And pirak- its dopamine, Schizophrenia and Alzheimers'. Sorry, dorky nursing student coming out of me

 

19.07.2007, 17:45 quote

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are87 wrote:
I've seen what drugs has done to my dad and a few close family members and how much they have changed because of them and I don't want that ever. My dad left my mom and the family in the pursuit of happiness aka drugs and a druggie girlfriend and its been so hard. I'm not against anyone doing it as it is their own personal choice, but I know I don't want to.

And pirak- its dopamine, Schizophrenia and Alzheimers'. Sorry, dorky nursing student coming out of me


 

19.07.2007, 19:07 quote

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Leglover227 wrote:
are87 wrote:
I've seen what drugs has done to my dad and a few close family members and how much they have changed because of them and I don't want that ever. My dad left my mom and the family in the pursuit of happiness aka drugs and a druggie girlfriend and its been so hard. I'm not against anyone doing it as it is their own personal choice, but I know I don't want to.

And pirak- its dopamine, Schizophrenia and Alzheimers'. Sorry, dorky nursing student coming out of me



Thanks Leg Very Happy Its been hard, but some things are getting better

 

19.07.2007, 19:56 quote

DHead
Joined: 07 Jan 2007 Posts: 9 Location: United Kingdom, England, Bedfordshire
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One Cadbury's Cream egg a month good, one a day isnt.

When women led man astray in the garden of Edan, good decreed that everything humanity liked is going to be bad for them, forcing us to eternally consume things we disliked as punishment. To upkeep this covenant he also decreed that if humans have to much of these good things he will become addicted and be condemned to eternal damnation.

Drugs, fags, booze cream eggs etc taken in moderation are all probably okay, the problem is they all become addictive and taken over long periods can ruin your health even kill you.

So knowing these facts I would say BAD!!

I'm not making light of problems that occur from these activities, like most people I have had family and friends beconing ill and die from excessively taking these things.
We all know to much drugs is bad for you, but god gave us a free will and because of this we often dance with the Devil.

 

19.07.2007, 22:36 quote

Bettyboop86
Bettyboop86 Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 99 Location: United Kingdom, Wales, Gwent
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I can't say they are bad and I certainly won't say they are 'good'.

Indeed the odd 'smoke' doesn't do a lot of harm. But, when you get bored of one you tend to progress to the 'harder' stuff.

I started college in September 2002, and being 16 and not really experiencing anything, I started on weed.
I started going out clubbing in April 2003, and withing a month I had tried ecstacy, and started taking it every friday.
It didn't even stop there, I started taking Coke, done majis, and god knows what else.
In February 2004, I started going down hill, and hung around with quite a few heroine addicts, but avoided the stuff. Didn't fancy sticking a needle in myself with the rest of them, so I was taking ecstacy every day. 6/7 in a day suited me fine, by August 2004 I was dealing.
The only thing that stopped me was my son, I found out I was pregnant in January 2005. I was already 9 weeks + so my son had been subjected to ecstasy for 7 weeks, I went through my entire pregnancy worrying about what I had done to my baby. What damage I may have caused. I was VERY lucky and I count my blessings, because I was blessed with a healthy baby. My son is the most intelligent 2 year old I have met. And he's amazing!

I will never be proud of what I did, and I will never condone (is that the right word?) pregnant women taking anything, but I honestly didn't know I was pregnant.

I have seen 'friends' being taken away in riot vans for dealing, while I had 50+ e's on me. And I have seen strangers, unconcious on the floor because of one 'bad one'.
I went through hell to be stop taking them. I can't say I wouldn't take them now, because that would make me a liar. But I can honestly say I haven't taken anything in a year.
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20.07.2007, 09:31 quote

Jamierocks
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 418 Location: United Kingdom, Scotland, Edinburgh
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Leglover227 wrote:
havn't had a "smoke" in about 10 years now after seeing my mate get completely mullered. He wasn't the sharpest knife in the draw to start with but now he has the mental capacity of a brussel sprout.


I smoked weed heavily from a young age, from 14 to 20 and I had to give it up as it was messing up my head big time. I havn't had a blow in 4 or 5 years. It was starting to give me really bad anxiety proplems and I'd had a few panic attacks as a result. I really miss it some times but I just cant go near it becuase it's bad news for me.
I did magic mushrooms when I was 14 not really being mature enough to comprahend what would happen - i can honesttly say that it was one of the best experiences I've ever had and I continued to do them over the years until I experienced a bad trip. I will never touch them again and I rekon if I did they would have to call the men in white coats to pick me up!
Yup, it's just ciggies and alchohol for me these days....mostly....ok, the odd line and pill too but in moderation!

 

20.07.2007, 10:05 quote

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pirakkanaama2 wrote:

PS: weed increases levels of dopermean in your brain( i cant spell dopermean) which is a cause for skitzophrenia, medicating for skitzophrenia reduces levels of dopermean, alsimers desease ( i cant spell that either) is a lack of dopermean, so if you get skitzophrenia but not to bad, you will most likely get alsimers like i will. its not worth it


Sorry, gotta disagree with that, first off the cause of schizophrenia is still not known:

Scientist types wrote:
It appears likely that multiple genes are involved in creating a predisposition to develop the disorder. In addition, factors such as prenatal difficulties like intrauterine starvation or viral infections, perinatal complications, and various nonspecific stressors, seem to influence the development of schizophrenia.


The link between cannabis use and schizophrenia was due to a german study. After using a selection basis of 232 peeps, which most scientist types can tell you is waaay too small a sample to get an accurate figure, they established through retrospective interview that 13 percent of the sample had used cannabis, from this they deduced that they fell into three groups, group 1 had seriously abused cannabis for several years before the onset of schiziophrenia, group 2 had tried canabis in the same month as developing schiziophrenia and group 3 had started using it after developing schiziophrenia.

On this basis the press have decided that smoking weed = becoming a schiziophrenic. Additionally, look at places like Amsterdam, they actually have a lower ratio of severe mental disorders per person than most of europe.

Finally cocaine and amphetamines like speed also increase the amount of dopamine in your system (Well, cocaine is actually a dopamine blocker, so it causes any natural highs to last longer. But essentially a similar effect.) However you dont here people going on about them becoming paranoid schizophrenics due to just one try, do ya?

Was kinda keeping outta this thread, but to cut a long story short my mum suffers really bad arthritis, and cannabis really helps her. I wouldnt provide her with anything without making sure its not really bad first, and I personally cant wait until they legalise the use of medicinal cannabis so I can get it for her from boots rather than from some shady dealer.

Its like anything peeps, fine in moderation, bad in excess. Drink too much coffee and it'll kill ya, we all know what too much alcohol does, hell eat too many carrots and it can hurt ya.

Meh, rant over.

 

20.07.2007, 10:16 quote

Anonymous

Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, im not advocating the use of drugs, but i do believe that certain drugs have potential for extremely beneficial pharmalogical use, for example cannabis to help with eyesight, alzheimers, arthritis etc. Cocaine is a very powerful pain killer, opium has uses in the treatment of a variety of mental disorders, etc.

A lot of these are being overlooked however because of the stigmata attached to them of being an evil drug.

So all i've gotta say is, we're all adults, not sure about something? Learn about it. Still wanna try it? Go ahead, its your life. Dont want to try it? Then tell the idiots that are trying to make you to feck off and find some new friends.

 

20.07.2007, 10:46 quote

CavalierLady
CavalierLady Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 53 Location: United Kingdom, England, Gloucestershire
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Krian wrote:
Oh, and in case anyone was wondering, im not advocating the use of drugs, but i do believe that certain drugs have potential for extremely beneficial pharmalogical use, for example cannabis to help with eyesight, alzheimers, arthritis etc. Cocaine is a very powerful pain killer, opium has uses in the treatment of a variety of mental disorders, etc.

A lot of these are being overlooked however because of the stigmata attached to them of being an evil drug.

So all i've gotta say is, we're all adults, not sure about something? Learn about it. Still wanna try it? Go ahead, its your life. Dont want to try it? Then tell the idiots that are trying to make you to feck off and find some new friends.


I certainly dont want to come across as patronizing but you sound like a very wise and articulate young man Smile

 

20.07.2007, 10:52 quote

Anonymous

All i can say is:



I learned me a book Razz

 

20.07.2007, 10:53 quote

CavalierLady
CavalierLady Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 53 Location: United Kingdom, England, Gloucestershire
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*grin* ah... knew there had to be a good reason Smile

 

20.07.2007, 11:26 quote

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I've gone through periods of being an every day smoker all my life.

Kicked it again at the start of the year.

Got a little skunk 3 months ago to celebrate the fact that my life was on the up and up. Then lost my brother two days later! That was me back on it full time, was lucky to last till 6 pm before lighting up my first bubbly.

Kicked it a week ago and feeling fantastic for it

Smoking a lot turns you into a vegetable. At best. Unless you can leave it in the drawr which some people just can't. I'm one of them...

I saw too many people in Scotland badly fked up before I left, so I don't really touch much else other than smoke tho I have occasionally indulged, only think I haven't touched is H.


One thing that really annoys me. People who say they detest drugs, and then say they like a drink! Ignorant, closed-minded cretins. Yes, scuba's got an exposed nerve Evil or Very Mad

 

20.07.2007, 12:17 quote

Anonymous

Most of you will remember my thread here last year telling you all that my first boyfriend, who I hadn't seen in seven years, was found dead of a heroin overdose. He had been kicked out of his apartment because he used all his money for drugs and didn't pay his rent. His own mother had to move house because he tried to set her home on fire after she refused him cash. She moved, and didn't dare tell him where she lived. All his family and friends disowned him. This is an example of how drugs can destroy your life.


Sometimes, when I'm out, I will have a few lines of Cha, maybe a few pills and a smoke. I'm not going to say I have never, "over indulged", I have. I remember a few months back when I totally lost an hour and a half after a club. Never got it back. At half two I was outside the club with my mates. And then bam!....it was four am and I was stood outside a school down the road. Luckily a guy I know was passing, seen the state I was in and waited with me until I came back down to earth. I don't do that often. Maybe once every few months. And I haven't done anything since.


With all the bad things happening in my town lately,...the rapes and beatings.....it's just not a risk I'm willing to take again.

 

20.07.2007, 21:57 quote

myriad
myriad Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Posts: 1343 Location: United Kingdom, England, Norfolk
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It's bad enough having to take drugs as essential medication, but when you're talking about 'recreational drugs' it may be the odd tab,skunk etc. is Ok, but I've personally seen too many tragedys for me to ever be convinced it's a good idea.

To me it conjours up all the awful memories of having lived and worked with people having schizophrenia, paranoia, attempting suicide, depression, being violent, brain damaged, addicted, absolute misery ................

I was around all the drugs in the 60s/70s and I think it's far worse now than ever before and the sad thing is that the people I know now, just don't see how they've changed from regular usage.

Sadly many of the 'recreational drug' users DO affect other people around them, they just don't see, or care about it!!!

 
 
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