Handsel said something (and now he's deleted it) in another thread, about there being not Creator.

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I love a good discussion and I realise that this subject won't be for everyone, so please just ignore this if you're going to be offended by it, don't even read it if it's going to upset you.

But this one is for those of us who are brave enough have our spiritual beliefs challenged and are not going to be offended, even if the subject matter may be offensive in nature to some. This is not, in any way, a personal attack, it is simply a discussion where intelligent people state their understanding and thoughts.

I have a firm belief in a Creator Being, God to some of us. However, as a scientist by qualification, I recognise that scientifically we cannot prove that there is a God, none of our spiritual beliefs can actually be proven, in fact, there appears to be more against our spiritual beliefs than for them.

I'd like to start this topic - which may prove to be fairly long winded, I know, but I think there may be some of us who may enjoy it.

Anyone up for it?

Prime creator or Source just IS call it God or whatever, it's an energy that runs through everything that exists.... religions are man made for controlling the people.
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Considering more wars have been started and hundreds of thousands killed and to this day people still persecuted all in the name of religion - I feel that if there was a creator (in any religion)he would have disowned us by now - for no parent should be that forgiving!

The Force is strong in Gypsy!

I'm with Hansdsel on this - religion is an unnecessary blight on humanity. Thinking that there some creator is how it all starts - and it seems so innocuous.
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I believe there's something more powerful than us. I have trouble explaining why without sounding like a loon. But I feel the power...and will stop now.

i think some are getting confused between religion and spiriuality here. two very seperate things.

if you'v never had the opportunity to feel the galactic truth, then wow, enjoy!!!

icedfluffymoo, spot on! i and i

so did bob marley sing "natural mystic" for no reason then?

I believe everything was created, but I think it was created by mother nature. She is the one that says who lives and dies. We can see this in action with natural selection.

We all know mother nature will wipe mankind off the face of the earth one day, as she has done with other species that can not live within their surroundings. Good job some might say

Realistically, she is everything that is needed to create life Hydrogen, Oxygen, Carbon, Nitrogen etc

Not sure there is any conscience thought there..but then again when you look at the wonderment and complexities, could it all just be coincidence?

Gods/spirits are probably just an easy way to explain it all, when we didn’t know better

this might be too much for many of you to handle i reckon...well anyway... i was thinking some big thoughts, and after talking about it, somebody showed me this, which pretty much backed up what i had thought (for no reason? or are we mystics and know our own universe like we know the blood in our vains).... really tho, im expecting people to not get this and to blow me out and think im a total tinfoil hat brigade....but

.....some food for thought....here>

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/reptiles/reptiles67.htm