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Home >> Anything else >> Britains' most famous tramp - Brian Haw.
17.03.2007, 08:03 quote
| waffus wrote: | ||
| but hes being ganged up on and bullied for having his opinion...double standards or what?. maybe guitargirl and aradons taxes were spent keeping you in prison. dont you think you should pay them back
incidentally, hes homeless, not a tramp reminds me of pastor niemollers poem First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist; Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist; Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist; Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew; Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me
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What has me going to prison got to do with it? Have you read every single one of SC's posts? Did you also see the posts where we tried to help him get back on his feet which were ignored?
Shut up
Go away
Shoo
17.03.2007, 08:07 quote
obviously you dont do irony...
| aDecentGuy wrote: |
| What has me going to prison got to do with it? Have you read every single one of SC's posts? Did you also see the posts where we tried to help him get back on his feet which were ignored?
Shut up Go away Shoo |
17.03.2007, 08:25 quote
Waffus, i sugest that you should find out about a situation before you harp on and come to the wrong conclution.
Every single member here has been nice to the guy and tried to help him out in one way or another, sugestiong orginisations that will help him back on his feet and trying to be really helpful.
And everytime it has been come back at with lame excuses as to why he cant, all of them pathetic.
There is only so much that people can take, and when he comes on giving it all the crap about women kissing and trying it on with 2 women at the same time at the meet it gets rather intimidating.
I felt sorry for him to start with and did defend him, i even issued warnings to people for there behaviour towards him.
However he is agressive rude, bordering on perversive and quite frankly if he goes to the meet i am going home, i dont trust the man as far as i can spit. in fact i would go as far to say he actually scares me something not quite right there
17.03.2007, 08:30 quote
Waffus are you Stonecastles alias?
Seeing as you joined up today and the first thing you've done instead of an introduction or anything else is come steaming in here to defend him.
Also the argument about how peoples taxes could go to pay for anything well thats not entirely true is it? However the fact you are arguing the toss over whose taxes paid for what is somewhat ironic as your profession is listed as dole!
I was once told by a prof at uni that to discuss where the taxes of one single person went were impossible and the only way to look at it was that every one who paid tax paid for a percentage of everything that taxes paid for ie: If the countries benefits system costs £200 million then everyone who pays taxes pays a percentage of that so maybe everyone pays 0.00001p or something the value and percentage is really irrelevent the fact is anyone who pays taxes in this country is fully entitled to complain about where it is being spent as they have contributed to the money being spent.
Get a life, Get a job and Get your head out of your arse.
17.03.2007, 08:37 quote
maybe i work in the dole. knob!!!...but as im not in the uk its irrelevant
im not defending anything stonecastle says but what you are saying illustrates my point about the shallowness of the others using their taxes to lambast and bully him.
| HarryMunk wrote: |
| Waffus are you Stonecastles alias?
Seeing as you joined up today and the first thing you've done instead of an introduction or anything else is come steaming in here to defend him. Also the argument about how peoples taxes could go to pay for anything well thats not entirely true is it? However the fact you are arguing the toss over whose taxes paid for what is somewhat ironic as your profession is listed as dole! I was once told by a prof at uni that to discuss where the taxes of one single person went were impossible and the only way to look at it was that every one who paid tax paid for a percentage of everything that taxes paid for ie: If the countries benefits system costs £200 million then everyone who pays taxes pays a percentage of that so maybe everyone pays 0.00001p or something the value and percentage is really irrelevent the fact is anyone who pays taxes in this country is fully entitled to complain about where it is being spent as they have contributed to the money being spent. Get a life, Get a job and Get your head out of your arse. |
17.03.2007, 08:40 quote
i dont care what stonecastle has said or has implied.i spoke out because he is being bullied..and bullying is wrong
ive just noticed that youre a moderator in this forum...how pathetic is that when a moderator becomes a bully too..shame on you
| danni82 wrote: |
| Waffus, i sugest that you should find out about a situation before you harp on and come to the wrong conclution.
Every single member here has been nice to the guy and tried to help him out in one way or another, sugestiong orginisations that will help him back on his feet and trying to be really helpful. And everytime it has been come back at with lame excuses as to why he cant, all of them pathetic. There is only so much that people can take, and when he comes on giving it all the crap about women kissing and trying it on with 2 women at the same time at the meet it gets rather intimidating. I felt sorry for him to start with and did defend him, i even issued warnings to people for there behaviour towards him. However he is agressive rude, bordering on perversive and quite frankly if he goes to the meet i am going home, i dont trust the man as far as i can spit. in fact i would go as far to say he actually scares me something not quite right there |
17.03.2007, 09:10 quote
| waffus wrote: | ||
| i dont care what stonecastle has said or has implied.i spoke out because he is being bullied..and bullying is wrong
ive just noticed that youre a moderator in this forum...how pathetic is that when a moderator becomes a bully too..shame on you
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im entitled like anyone else to my opinion and i have not bullied him thank you very much. get off your soap box troll
17.03.2007, 09:33 quote
your bullying him by ganging up on him...is it beyond you to ignore him? or does it make you feel better hunting in a pack?
troll....lol...and now youre insulting me for having my opinion
...ffs, what a mod!!
| danni82 wrote: | ||||
im entitled like anyone else to my opinion and i have not bullied him thank you very much. get off your soap box troll |
17.03.2007, 09:33 quote
| waffus wrote: | ||
| but hes being ganged up on and bullied for having his opinion...double standards or what?. maybe guitargirl and aradons taxes were spent keeping you in prison. dont you think you should pay them back
incidentally, hes homeless, not a tramp reminds me of pastor niemollers poem First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist; Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist; Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist; Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew; Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me
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17.03.2007, 09:40 quote
| waffus wrote: |
| yeah....pay for ian huntley too...a prisoner is a prisoner |
17.03.2007, 09:47 quote
Do I wonder in and give an opinion or not. Hmmmm. Bugger, I feel an opinion or rant coming along, please bear with me for a couple of minutes.
From what I understand SC moved to London, giving up a home and 'normal' life in (I think it was) Stoke, to live on the streets to find a woman he can date and do rude things to - that was his sole reason for moving. On his move to London, either intentially or by chance he became homeless, and from his posts I think he moved to London straight into a squat - so from house to homeless in one easy move. I dont know what he did before he moved, now he sells the big issue and sleeps rough. I think thats about all.
From his posts he has refused help to find a dwelling down there, ignored the advice - some has been very good - of members here and refused jobs because that would mean he has to work in a morning. Thats OK becasue people can live their lives as they want, however if they want to take from society when they are in need, then I think they have a duty to live with society and put something back as soon as they can so that there are resources to help the next person in need. SC, from what I understand is unwilling to put anything back into society that is helping him (for example, if he gets hurt he will be looked after, despite I think not paying towards the medical system). Thousands in the bank (his words), but wont spend them to help his life get easier and acheive his goals
He winds me up with his negative attitude towards life 'I cant because...' and one track of thought 'I have never had a girlfriend and I am desperate to "Get Off" with a woman', and I think most people here have been very patient with him, and ignored the fact that many threads have been taken over by his issues with people offering thoughts and advice.
One or 2 members mayhave had a few bad words to write, but that is society. I think, though, when you read SC's posts the cross words are repeated when he repeats the same posts (not the exact text, but the exact same meaning), regardless of the subject they are talking about and this repeated cross words to the repeated posts could look like bullying - but perhaps its just the conversation repeating itself. You'll find where SC talks about things other than his homelessness or "getting off" with women, then the cross words stop and pleasent threads happen.
SC - If any of this is very wrong, PM me and Ill edit this, dont want to be accused of bullying you and doing you an injustice.
Oh, and welcome to the forums Waffus.
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