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Home >> Anything else >> Are beliefs worth dying for?
21.04.2008, 22:27 quote
| klee1986 wrote: |
| There are a lot of beliefs people have and would die for. I am a strong believer of some certain things and whats right and wrong. Also i have things i do NOT believe in and feel very strongly about. But then again ALL people wont feel the same.
I stand my ground if i believe something , but then again some people do not have the same beliefs as others. If that were the case and everyone believed in the same things - the world would be such a boring place  |
that depends if you class peace as boring, if everyone believed in the same thing, there would be no racism, violence, war etc etc - the ideal world as far as i'm concerned..
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21.04.2008, 22:30 quote
| s6boystu wrote: | ||
that depends if you class peace as boring, if everyone believed in the same thing, there would be no racism, violence, war etc etc - the ideal world as far as i'm concerned.. |
21.04.2008, 22:44 quote
| shiftygeezer wrote: |
i'd kill for some skunk right now, ..does that count ?  |
If you are a rastafarian, it would be a part of your belief, though I dont think a true Rastafarian would kill for it!
On topic, did you know that the word Rastafarian comes from Haile Salassi's name was Ras Tafari which means Prince Tafari and he was the Emperor of Ethiopia, whom the Rastas believe was God incarnate - although he himself never agreed or disagreed.
21.04.2008, 22:49 quote
| lilacrose wrote: | ||
If you are a rastafarian, it would be a part of your belief, though I dont think a true Rastafarian would kill for it!
On topic, did you know that the word Rastafarian comes from Haile Salassi's name was Ras Tafari which means Prince Tafari and he was the Emperor of Ethiopia, whom the Rastas believe was God incarnate - although he himself never agreed or disagreed. |
i didnt , ....i just want weed
21.04.2008, 22:51 quote
| lilacrose wrote: | ||
If you are a rastafarian, it would be a part of your belief, though I dont think a true Rastafarian would kill for it!
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There's a gang of Rastafarians that operate in the Essex / london area called the Yardies.. they'd kill for alot less..
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21.04.2008, 22:52 quote
Human nature has been the same for many thousands of years with the equation of intelligence as without.
With science of all sorts to govern this races way, blind faith has always led us, the blind leading the blind, the sheep or the flock, learning from the past of consistant repetative mistakes, with or without this grasp of intelligensa of ours, we still believe that dying for belief is the way.
21.04.2008, 22:55 quote
Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
That's like saying a classic car is the same thing as a blinged-up boy racer!!!!!!!!
"Yardie" is/was a specific term for the Jamaican Drug Dealers (in the '80s) - True Rastafarians are peaceful, spiritual people who use hallucigens to invoke visions etc.
21.04.2008, 22:59 quote
| titwhipper wrote: |
| Human nature has been the same for many thousands of years with the equation of intelligence as without.
With science of all sorts to govern this races way, blind faith has always led us, the blind leading the blind, the sheep or the flock, learning from the past of consistant repetative mistakes, with or without this grasp of intelligensa of ours, we still believe that dying for belief is the way. |
wha? you got weed ?
21.04.2008, 22:59 quote
| titwhipper wrote: |
| Human nature has been the same for many thousands of years with the equation of intelligence as without.
With science of all sorts to govern this races way, blind faith has always led us, the blind leading the blind, the sheep or the flock, learning from the past of consistant repetative mistakes, with or without this grasp of intelligensa of ours, we still believe that dying for belief is the way. |
Well said, friend.
21.04.2008, 23:02 quote
| lilacrose wrote: |
| Nooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
That's like saying a classic car is the same thing as a blinged-up boy racer!!!!!!!! "Yardie" is/was a specific term for the Jamaican Drug Dealers (in the '80s) - True Rastafarians are peaceful, spiritual people who use hallucigens to invoke visions etc. |
I lived in Antigua for a while back in the '90s. I forget his name now, but he was a true rasta, he rode a horse bareback, did yoga on the beach every morning when no one was really around, he was gentle and always smiled. The man had the body of a 20 year old, his real age was about 50. This man was content and happy and he shared it.
21.04.2008, 23:05 quote
Yeah i lived in st lucia for a while in the '70s. Amazing people. Shame i was just a child and didnt have the wherewithall to learn more.
22.04.2008, 08:59 quote
| Minijellytot wrote: |
| I would die for my beliefs, I believe very strongly in what I think is wrong or right.
But on another note bearing that in mind are people who kill themselves or others in the name of their beliefs any different from ourselves??? I personally would kill any one who touched my little sister, so is that any different to a suicide bomber who is killing for their beliefs??? |
Getting back on track again...
It is slightly different and slightly similar at the same time. Your feeling for your sister comes out of care and love, while the suicide bomber's motives come from the same, except a twisted and perverse sense of it.
The odd thing about this thread is that there is no wrong answer to it. it varies from person to person. But being a Suicide bomber or a Soldier in a War (which is an extreme situation), you are often driven to a point of no return. I dont question the choice of a soldier, but I do question the hand that controls them.
Not all soldiers fight out of valour or patriotism.
the Oklahoma bomber was a gulf war vet, dabbled in explosives and was a anti-gun law person. In his twisted belief - he believed all those people he killed because of his direct action was the government's fault.
He had no remorse till the very end.
and this belief started where, when the government put a gun in his hands when he was a teenager out of college, urging him to "fight for his country" while he stated that he "just wanted to shoot a gun in real". He recalled his first "Kill", a bullet round from a high powered gun that blew apart a man's head like a melon and got the one behind him, as a "shock".
I think an ill formed belief is very very dangerous. People just dont think about things anymore. they crave instant gratification.
23.04.2008, 10:36 quote
I stuck to a VERY strong belief of mine last night, i feel stupenderously guilty about it, but there's no way i'll ever back down from it.
The loss outweighs the gain tenfold... but i guess atleast it's been said now.. i shall go back to being all by myself again - with only the comfort of the thought that i stuck to my guns - was it worth it ? no.. not really, but i believe it to be right and will never change that opinion.
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