I have a lot of trouble getting up the courage to talk to girls in bars, especially if they're in a group .. which is nearly always. Even if i get the impression that a girl is interested i still hesitate to go over.

Any advice for a hopeless 21 year old? haha.

my advice just do it i mean if a lad makes the effort to come over to me in a bar i will give them time and talk to them unless they are a total wierdo iv met a few and your quite a good looking guy im sure girls wont mind chatting to you it doesnt have to be anything more,i know there are a few girls tho who would knock yoou back but in the end they arnt worth talking to

Or you could time yourself and go to talk to her when she's by herself on the way back from the loo, or at the bar buying a round... offer to help carry the drinks back to her friends even.
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Most men have problems making the first move with women they like, especially if its mutual.
Makes it worse if they are in a group.

Its often best to chat to the other women in the group. Especially if its a small group [her and a couple mates], as often the other ladies will take her away if they get bored. So try and chat to other women in the group, and keep them interested in staying.
That can often take the pressure off chatting to her.

Sometimes its good to start chatting and pay more attention to one of her mates, before moving in on her. If you think someone is interested. That can often get them going. Then when you start chatting to her, do it in a fairly intense way to let her know

Not always a good thing to admit, but a bit of honest bullshit goes a long way when first getting to know women. Not lies though

hey mate if you dont approach then nothing will happen and you will go home feeling worse,than if you did approach the woman you liked and she rejects you.If a woman is in a group(which is always)then address the whole group,not just the one you like,otherwise her friends will feel left out and drag her away to get a drink or something.Dont make eye contact with the group when you go over,just sort of walk over looking around the bar as if your looking for some one,then when you get to the group of say three women say "hi right im only chatting you two up tonight"(point to the two you dont fancy)then to the one you like "Is that alright with you?" See what she says just make everyting playful and fun,people in bars/clubs just want to have a good laugh so dont take the interaction to seriously and if the women are cold towards you then just say "NEXT" and go talk to another group of women.Just go in dont think just act,the more you do it the easier it gets.

awesome, cheers for the replies .. i'm out at the weekend, so ill be brave, haha

i always find when a guy is trying to chat up me or my mates when we are in a group which usually is, by getting a few of your other mates to come with you and to distract the other girls whilst you make your move, now you will have tohave some really good mates to do this, and having a laugh with the whole group and not just singling out the one that you like, as this will make her feel self councious.

also if they loo that they aren't interested and make it clear to you that they aren't intrested walk away with your head held hi or make an excuse that you have to go to the tolet but don't return.

Another is maybe wait untill she has to go to the bar and then talk to her when shes ordering the drinks or make a funny comment that both you and her can laugh at!!

This is how boys/men have got my attention

hope it helps

roisin

My 2 pennies on dis...

Once a guy picked me up at 1 am in front of a snacks machine. LOL

He was cute and funny so we spent the night talkin' (well mostly lol)...

And the whole thing started with a thing like "I suggest you get the Oreos" and the answer "Is that so?" LOL And we talked about snacks for 5 minutes. And we were both a tad dizzy (surely not drunk though)...

Bottom line is... If a person likes your appearances and you even show a wee bit of your smarts... You may as well say: Hey, I'm Neo... And you'll be in... (as long as you don't say something like hi babe what's an angel like you doing on earth? - however if you're really really cute and not very drunk, you can get away with that too lol)

It's all really lottery.

I'd say the advice given on here was pretty awesome! hope its helped you! If only life was like how I Met Your Mother where the characters do not find any difficulty at all trying to pick up ladies.
i find, "hiya, can i nick a fag off you" a good starting point for a good night :p lol
but nah, would be nice to get chat up by a normal person in an everyday situation rather than in a drunken haze! It just doesn't happen! Everyone is too afraid of being thought of as strange or cocky or just after their leg over!

be brave and do it!
it's such a turn on and plus point if a guy comes up to you...
and if the girl doesn't appreciate it then she's not worth your time anyway

I myself prefer to approach women from down the chimney...it has more shock-value!