Am i ugly?, i know im fat but i cant seem to attract girls.... please post with honest opinions ladie and wether or not you would date me (not asking you on a date btw=p)

You're not ugly at all but for me the weight thing would be an issue. Just as some men dont find overweight women attractive, it works the same vice versa.

You will find that special one, you are still young and there are lots of young ladies out there, always be honest and truthful to yourself and others.
good luck and take care

I'm a bloke and not in a position to judge your looks, but I have been through 17's and I know it's the most self-conscious time we go through about our image, even more so today with media pressures.

I had a few friends who were overweight and felt very much the same as you appear to now.

What turned their lives around and heightened self esteem was taking control over aspects of their lives they could do something about - joining a gym, buying some stylish clothes, working hard towards goals in life - and eventually learnt to stop caring about things out of their control like genetic appearance or what other people think.

As they started worrying less about what they couldn't control and concentrated on achieving goals they could, they became more confident and attractive people to of the opposite love. In fact they are now happily married with kids and I wish I could get them to post here right now because I'm sure they’d be able to offer a better perspective than me.

It may not seem like it now, but I can't stress enough how much more self respect and confidence count in a person above just looks when you’re going out and meeting people. Others want to be around people who appear to be enjoying life, so pick yourself up and take charge!

You’re only 17, live in one of the best countries in the world and have a fantastic life ahead of you - don’t fall into the trap of kicking yourself down over things out of your control.

well, I dont think u r ugly..

but looks are not important really..u should have a nice personalty and I'm sure girls will like u then

thanks, tob e honest I feel that i am very kind and generous person. as for my interest, guitar, pc's (hardware stuff=p) and lsitening to rock music. These good?

[quote="magnoknads"]I'm a bloke and not in a position to judge your looks, but I have been through 17's and I know it's the most self-conscious time we go through about our image, even more so today with media pressures.

I had a few friends who were overweight and felt very much the same as you appear to now.

What turned their lives around and heightened self esteem was taking control over aspects of their lives they could do something about - joining a gym, buying some stylish clothes, working hard towards goals in life - and eventually learnt to stop caring about things out of their control like genetic appearance or what other people think.

As they started worrying less about what they couldn't control and concentrated on achieving goals they could, they became more confident and attractive people to of the opposite love. In fact they are now happily married with kids and I wish I could get them to post here right now because I'm sure they’d be able to offer a better perspective than me.

It may not seem like it now, but I can't stress enough how much more self respect and confidence count in a person above just looks when you’re going out and meeting people. Others want to be around people who appear to be enjoying life, so pick yourself up and take charge!

You’re only 17, live in one of the best countries in the world and have a fantastic life ahead of you - don’t fall into the trap of kicking yourself down over things out of your control.[/quote
listen to magno, this is very good

Hrmm, that post does seem very useful, but my problem is... i dont know how to approach/talk to females or even males (im not gay). I am just very shy, any tips on convo starters ect.

Join the club mate.

If I knew then I would sell the secret and be rich.

I think it comes down to confidence (back to magno I'm afraid), at 17 music was very important to me and open the doors to a lot of friendships (mostly by hanging round rock pubs/clubs).

You're one up on where I was, playing the guitar. Check out the local 'independant' music stores, see if there are any gigs going on or even adverts for band members...

At a gig (if you can face going on your own, difficult thing to do I know) you can alwas talk about the band to other people there, I think works for most events (like sport).

Hope that helps

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try starting a band, that would build your confidence up.. and think of all the groupies you can pull..

what u need is a door to door sales job. (I know I was or am fat or whatrever) hell I still can't talk to women easily, but hay, I it does get easier. If you get a door-2-door sales job, with basic & commision pay, you go out speaking to people all day, you get to buy a suit (suits look amazing on me...about the only thing other than a woman really... ) You'd have people helping you sell, and building up you'r confidence all the time. OK some won't but they can piss off. you'd feel good, you'd care less about what people think about you. hang out with a few sales peeps, and you'll quickly learn to feel good. also if like me most of your mates are like 6'4 and skinny as twiggy her self, then avoid photo's with them, and if not, then put someone shorter than yourself between them and you.

Works for me.

LOLi really dont think d2d sales if for me , il stick with forming a band =)